‘World’s largest mosquito’: Donald Trump and Robert F. Kennedy Jr call leaked after assassination attempt

Rebecca Davis O’Brien and Jonathan Weisman
The New York Times
In the leaked call Trump said the shot was like ‘the world’s biggest mosquito’.
In the leaked call Trump said the shot was like ‘the world’s biggest mosquito’. Credit: AAP

A leaked video of a phone call between former President Donald Trump and independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr. on the day after the attempted assassination of Trump offered a behind-the-scenes look into the former president’s efforts to coax Kennedy out of the race and into his camp.

The video was first posted early Tuesday morning by Kennedy’s eldest son, Bobby Kennedy III, and then swiftly deleted, according to screenshots of the original message and a person briefed on the matter. The younger Kennedy criticized Trump for his vice-presidential pick and said he wanted to expose his “real opinion” on vaccinations.

The video provides a glimpse of the private relationship between Trump and Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who have long been friendly, though Trump has publicly criticized Kennedy during the campaign.

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Kennedy apologized for the leaked video almost immediately on X, the same social media site where the video first appeared Tuesday morning.

“When President Trump called me I was taping with an in-house videographer,” he wrote. “I should have ordered the videographer to stop recording immediately. I am mortified that this was posted.”

Over Kennedy’s speaker phone, Trump, the Republican nominee, can first be heard describing scientifically baseless concerns about vaccinations — an issue Kennedy is closely associated with — expressing disbelief at the volume of vaccinations given to infants.

“I want to do small doses,” Trump said, before observing that the practice of giving multiple vaccinations at once means the shot “looks like it’s meant for a horse, not uh, you know, a 10-pound or 20-pound baby.”

Kennedy and the organization he co-founded, Children’s Health Defence, have for years promoted claims about the health risks of childhood vaccines that have repeatedly been refuted by studies.

“And then you see the baby all of a sudden starting to change radically, I’ve seen it too many times,” Trump said. “And then you hear that it doesn’t have an impact, right? But you and I talked about that a long time ago.”

Then Trump pivoted to an apparent effort to win his support: “I would love you to do something. And I think it’ll be so good for you and so big for you. And we’re going to win.”

Kennedy, standing while wearing a shirt and tie, says “Yeah,” barely audibly. Throughout the video, Kennedy says little else.

Trump also briefly described his recent call with President Joe Biden and said he had asked about the near miss of the bullet in Pennsylvania. “It was very nice, actually,” Trump said. “He called me, and he said, ‘How did you choose to move to the right?’”

Trump marvelled that he had been shot by an AR-15-type weapon, the sort of military-style rifle Biden wants to ban — “pretty tough guns, right?”

Of the wound to his ear, Trump said: “It felt like the world’s largest mosquito.”

In his original post on X, the younger Kennedy wrote: “I am a firm believer that these sorts of conversations should be had in public. Here’s Trump giving his real opinion to my dad about vaccinating kids.” Bobby Kennedy’s wife, Amaryllis Fox, is Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s campaign manager.

On Monday, Trump and Kennedy met in person in Milwaukee before the Republican National Convention, which stirred rumours that Kennedy was planning to drop out of the race and endorse Trump.

Afterwards, though, Kennedy said he had no plans to drop out.

A leaked video of Donald Trump calling Kennedy offered a behind-the-scenes look into the former presidents efforts to coax Kennedy out of the presidential race and into his camp.  (Rachel Woolf/The New York Times)
A leaked video of Donald Trump calling Kennedy offered a behind-the-scenes look into the former presidents efforts to coax Kennedy out of the presidential race and into his camp. (Rachel Woolf/The New York Times) Credit: RACHEL WOOLF/NYT

Kennedy is in the thick of an expensive and time-consuming effort to get on the ballot in all 50 states. His persistence as a candidate has unnerved both Trump’s camp and Biden’s — recent polls suggest that Kennedy could pull votes equally from both candidates, including in swing states.

This article originally appeared in The New York Times.

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